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PART 2 (page 17 of 34)
We All Live by The Same Rules
Two People of the Same Sex Can Live in a Committed, Monogamous, Loving Relationship with the Blessing of God
The Homophobic Agenda
And as was mentioned in my story “A Gay Christmas Carol” I believe that God doesn’t have different criteria or rules for homosexuals than He does for heterosexuals. Love is Love and He allows and wants all His children to have that Love in their lives and to have the opportunity to share their lives with someone they are attracted to, be it someone of the opposite sex or the same sex. Most everybody [including people of straight, bisexual, and gay orientations (1)] needs to be loved and to have someone to love him or her back, therefore in that framework I believe that same-sex love is the spiritual and moral equivalent of opposite-sex love for heterosexuals. Homosexual acts, therefore, are not to be evaluated in isolation, or viewed simply as categories of behavior to be approved or condemned. Rather, they must be considered contextually, in terms of the quality of the relationship they express. They must be judged, in other words, by precisely the same criteria that are applied to their heterosexual counterparts: whether (or to what extent) they are genuinely consensual and non-exploitative . . .characterized by mutual commitment, faithfulness and intended permanence. (2)
The Roman Catholic Doctrine and Our Response
And even though Catholics sometimes understand that homosexuality is not a choice and morally neutral in and of itself, they still shout to the world that "Homosexual persons are called to chastity" but the truth is that celibacy (chastity) is a special and rare gift and God is not so cruel to demand gays or lesbians to be celibate anymore than he expects straights to be celibate. Remember that their Priests are supposed to be celibate too, and look how that has worked out, ha-ha. [Be sure to read footnote (3) regarding celibacy and the Catholic Church’s child abuse scandals] It is hardly realistic to expect that all gays and lesbians who would follow Christ are capable of accepting the discipline of life long emotional and erotic abstinence and, moreover, that it is anything but compassionate to demand of them, as evangelical theologian Helmut Thielicke puts it, "a degree of harshness and rigor which one would never think of demanding" of heterosexual Christians. As Bruce Bawer writes in A Place At The Table, "What kind of compassion is it . . . that leaves the object of that compassion no means of living honorably with his situation other than that of leading a tortured, empty, loveless life? . . . Gay Christians simply cannot conceive of a God who would bless them with the ability to love and yet demand that they spend their lives alone." (4) And for those of you who feel that heterosexual marriage is an option for homosexuals, click Here.
And I concur. The God that I love and worship doesn't require homosexuals to live a life without the satisfaction and fulfillment of romantic love. And He definitely wouldn't deny to the homosexual the basic human need to experience sex and sexual intimacy any more than He would deny that experience to the heterosexual because as the term implies, these needs when they are met, make up the foundation of good physical and mental health. Remember that there is much more at stake in such lifelong celibacy than mere sexual abstinence. Also to be renounced is the entire complex web of intimacy, self-revelation, mutual help, familiar connection and emotional union which make up the coupled state. And for most people, it is in the context of the coupled state that the individual's natural tendency to selfishness is whittled away and supplanted by a focus on the needs of others in the day to day reality of marriage and family life. Denying gays and lesbians the possibility of such coupled intimacy, cuts them off from a key means of God's transforming work in the human heart. (5) Click Here to read more on this issue under the heading "The Anti-Gay Religious Right's Really Cruel and Idiotic Argument."
of Love the Sinner, but Hate the Sin or
the Sin, But
Love the Sinner
Continuing with this line of thought brings us to another danger lurking in the doctrine of a majority of conservative evangelical Christian churches, all fundamentalist and charismatic Christian Churches and the Catholic Church in particular (Click Here and you will see listed the names of the ever growing number of Gay Friendly Churches [5,916 churches at the end of December, 2009] in the United States under the heading "Fifth Reason"). And that is “Oh, we very much love the homosexual, but we hate the sin.” or "Jesus loves you and so do we, as long as you don't love someone of the same sex." That is so against everything that Jesus himself taught in terms of the ideas and attitudes He expressed and the life He lived because it is so cruel and hateful. First of all, homosexuality is not a sin and therefore it is not "one of the results of the Fall of man". Two people of the same sex can live in a committed, monogamous, loving relationship with the blessing of God because none of the Bible Verses which talk about same-sex sexual behavior deal with that issue, as I have pointed out throughout this website. The writers of the Bible had no concept of long term committed, monogamous, loving relationships between two men or two women.
I agree completely with My former Pastor*, the Reverend Dr. Laurence Keene [Christian Church-Disciples of Christ], when he says the following in the documentary, For The Bible Tells Me So, "My theological belief is that all loving relationships are honored by God. I do not believe that the Bible speaks against loving committed homosexual relationships."
And secondly when you say you love the sinner, but hate the sin, "isn't that like saying, 'I love left-handed people but hate that they're left-handed.' Is that really love? Or is that saying, 'I'm willing to love you as I'd like you to be, not as you are'? Either God's love is unconditional or it's not." (6)
And lastly, remember that homosexual couples are simply two people who love each other. The first couple who were married on June 16, 2008 when marriage for homosexuals became temporarily legal in California were two women in their 80’s, Phyllis Lyon, 84, and Del Martin, 87, who had been together for 55 years - and the subsequent 18,000 plus homosexual marriages that took place for the 4 and a half months (from June 16, 2008 to November 4, 2008) that they were legal the first time speak to the same testimony - of couples, men or women who have been together for decades and now want to make it legal and official. Aren’t these clear indications that these pairs are together because they love each other, and are not temporary flings by people driven by lust looking for unbridled sexual pleasure? Love that is the real thing can never be wrong. (Gay marriage is now legal again in California as of June 28, 2013) [I hated the accordion, ha-ha]
Why I Can't Say 'Love the Sinner/Hate the Sin' Anymore
Won't They Ever Give Up Trying to Cause Us More Misery?
Another point in regards to celibacy that seems to show that these Legalistic Christians fundamentally refuse to take gay people and their lives seriously is that many of them like the Roman Catholics say that there is nothing wrong with being attracted to your own sex, but it is a sin to act on it. They say that the celibate lifestyle for the homosexual is necessary because it is his or her call to "costly discipleship" for a true homosexual Christian. Whoa! In other words these people are saying that God allows people to be born with (or through circumstances beyond their control to acquire) homosexual feelings, but they're never supposed to act on them. That comes across as meaning that, "it's ok for us heterosexuals to act on our attractions, but not you."
Another implication of what they say is that for homosexuals, God meant for them to spend their lives in loneliness and despair, never to experience romantic love with someone they are attracted to and want to share their lives with. They seem to think that Genesis 2:18 (NLT) [And the Lord God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a companion who will help him] applies to only heterosexuals. To limit the meaning of "companion" to woman or the opposite sex is to me, intellectually dishonest where you're limiting the unconditional expansive love of God to man's very limited abilities to understand the Lord's love and thinking. They say that God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Hello!!!!! That was when the existence of man and woman on earth was always in doubt, because of high infant mortality, poor hygiene and nutrition and lack of modern medicine. So in those times everybody, heterosexuals and homosexuals alike, had to be involved in producing children in order for civilization to survive. For example, the debate is whether life expectancy in the Classical World was 25 or 40 years. Not whether it was 70 to 80 years like in today's world. There are over 6,79 billion people in the world now. Breeding clearly isn't an issue any longer.
It is the homophobic religious attitudes as expressed above that lead gay young people to give up on life completely and commit
suicide, because they see no hope or love in their futures, the exact same
feelings that Bobby Griffith expressed in his
diaries before he jumped off that bridge. And these are
the young people that this Website is dedicated to.
And attempts to make a moral distinction between the homosexual condition and the specific acts that flow from and express that condition are only well-meaning casuistry or religious rationalization. As Bruce Bawer puts it in A Place At The Table: To recognize homosexual orientation as naturally occurring and morally neutral, while insisting that acting upon that orientation is, in every instance and without exception, abnormal, unnatural, and perverse, makes no sense. If homosexual "behavior" comes as naturally to gays as heterosexual "behavior" comes to straight people, then how can heterosexual sex in marriage be seen as a blessing, a virtue, and a force for good, while homosexual sex within a committed, long-term relationship be seen as an evil, deviant urge that must be resisted? (7)
And remember that five times in Genesis 1 it says that “God saw that it was good” after each of the principle stages of His creation of Man and his universe. If God created us and if everything he created is good, how can a gay person be guilty of being anything more than what God created him or her to be?
"The consciousness of loving and being loved brings a warmth and richness to life that nothing else can bring.” ~ Oscar Wilde ...
Immoral Homosexual Agenda? Immoral Gay Agenda?
Why is it that when the Anti-Gay Religious Right voices their spiritual values, they call them a “Christian Moral Vision,” whereas when we voice our spiritual values, they call them an “Immoral Homosexual or Gay Agenda”? Watch out when they start using the phrase, "gay agenda", because these are same homophobes that say that the anti-discrimination and hate crime laws that are in place to protect the vulnerable members of the LGBT community are giving us "special rights". Those code phrases, "gay agenda" and "special rights" just mean that these loonies believe that all us in the LGBT community "choose" our sexual orientation. Actually these people choose their religious beliefs over all the evidence accumulated since the Holy Bible was written, information that God has lovingly provided us. Nobody, least of all me, wakes up one morning and thinks, "I have a great idea, I think I'd like to become a member of a detested minority." Hello! (9) So their belief structure is built on sand, instead of rock - religious doctrine instead of science, respected medical opinion and just everyday God-given common sense, observation and experience.
And you know, to me it is their "values" which have the ring of a man-made agenda
since God never intended that His Message to all of us be so twisted in such an
unloving way. In fact, some have likened the Anti-Gay Agenda to the Homophobic
Agenda. [Continue reading below for more thoughts on the Homophobic Agenda.] As I understand it, the heterosexual and the homosexual agenda is
wrapped up into what is quoted at least nine times (8) in the Old and New
Testaments: Love your neighbor as yourself.
Nowhere does is say or imply, "love your neighbor, unless he or she happens to
Escape From the Ex-Gay Movement by Christian Mentz in the Huffington Post - January 5, 2015
Christian Schizzel was once
the poster child of the "ex-gay" movement. After leaving the movement, he called
out the conversion attempts that he suffered through for what they are:
something terribly dangerous.
In a humorous talk with an urgent message entitled, "The Myth of the Gay Agenda", LZ Granderson (an American journalist and commentator for CNN and ESPN), points out the absurdity in the idea that there's a "gay lifestyle," much less a "gay agenda." It's funny how he shows us that The Gay Agenda actually is only the statement that all citizens are EQUALS. The Gay Agenda is the United States Constitution. Click Here to watch the video. (May 2012)
Father Bernard Lynch, a gay Catholic priest who has incurred the wrath of the Vatican for his views supporting LGBT Catholics, blames the Catholic Church’s child abuse scandal on the celibacy rule.
"We enter seminary at the young age of 17," he explained in an interview on my SiriusXM radio program. "It is my belief that we were and are seriously arrested in our own psychosexual emotional development. As you know, unfortunately [with] a lot of priests who are guilty of the abuse of children, it's ephebophilia [sexual attraction to adolescents, usually aged 15 to 19], not pedophilia [attraction to prepubescent children]. In other words, they start off where they're left off. They start abusing kids who were their age when they entered seminary. The other point is that I do not believe celibacy can be mandated. I believe celibacy is a gift from God and it's a very small minority of women and men who are gifted with this. They are such a small minority and to equate priesthood with that gift is an abuse of the priesthood. Most priests, straight or gay, do not have the gift of celibacy. They get twisted in their own psychosexual development. And they end up, most unfortunately, visiting that twistedness on the most vulnerable, which happen to be children." (3)
Gary Lynn's Personal Testimony
In any case, I can say right here in all honesty and humility that I try to live my life every day (including what I write on this website) so that at any moment I am ready to meet my Lord and Savior, face to face. Yes, I am ready to be judged with all my sins and often lack of faith exposed, whenever He deems it time that my life here on this earth is over.
Sin is Sin
On the other hand, Sin is Sin; therefore He punishes homosexual lust and abuse just like he punishes heterosexual lust and abuse. This means that the sex that goes on between two strangers in gay bathhouses is most likely sinful, just like what goes on between heterosexuals at the "Moonlite Bunny Ranch" (a brothel) outside of Carson City, Nevada is most likely sinful. Neither homosexuals nor heterosexuals get preferential treatment. We all live by the same rules. I have the utmost confidence in God’s ability to distinguish between true love and love that is based only on sexual attraction where two people just use each other for their own selfishness. Yes, some homosexuals do this, but so do many more heterosexuals because, hey, there are so many more of them, ha-ha.
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(1) For the sake of fairness those who identify themselves as Transsexuals should definitely be included here too, but that subject is beyond the scope of this website. Just because I saw the movie Boys Don't Cry doesn't make me an expert on this subject, ha-ha.
(2) Holben, L. R. What Christians Think about Homosexuality - Six Representative Viewpoints, North Richland Hills, Texas, BIBAL Press, 1999, page 153.
(3) Father Bernard Lynch, a gay Catholic priest who has incurred the wrath of the Vatican for his views supporting LGBT Catholics, blames the Catholic Church’s child abuse scandal on the celibacy rule. "We enter seminary at the young age of 17," he explained in an interview on my SiriusXM radio program. "It is my belief that we were and are seriously arrested in our own psychosexual emotional development. As you know, unfortunately [with] a lot of priests who are guilty of the abuse of children, it's ephebophilia [sexual attraction to adolescents, usually aged 15 to 19], not pedophilia [attraction to prepubescent children]. In other words, they start off where they're left off. They start abusing kids who were their age when they entered seminary. The other point is that I do not believe celibacy can be mandated. I believe celibacy is a gift from God and it's a very small minority of women and men who are gifted with this. They are such a small minority and to equate priesthood with that gift is an abuse of the priesthood. Most priests, straight or gay, do not have the gift of celibacy. They get twisted in their own psychosexual development. And they end up, most unfortunately, visiting that twistedness on the most vulnerable, which happen to be children." Click Here to read the rest of this article from the July 10, 2012 Huffington Post.
(4) Holben, L. R.
What Christians Think about Homosexuality - Six Representative Viewpoints,
North Richland Hills, Texas, BIBAL Press, 1999, page 116.
(5) Ibid, page 118 and 119.
(6) Sanchez, Alex,
The God Box-A Budding love. A Test of Faith, New York London Toronto Sydney,
Simon Pulse, 2007, page page 67.
(7) Holben, L. R. What Christians Think about Homosexuality - Six Representative Viewpoints, North Richland Hills, Texas, BIBAL Press, 1999, page 119.
(8) Leviticus 19:18,
Matthew 19:19, Matthew 22:39, Mark 12:31, Mark 12:33, Luke 10:27, Romans 13:9,
Galatians 5:14, James 2:8.
(9) From the Sermon, "Is Homosexuality a Sin?" by by Rev. Dr. Kathlyn James.
A Gay Teen Short Story ♂♂
Church is so confusing for Zack. His new pastor preaches nothing but hate and condemnation of gays and lesbians, but no matter how carefully he reads his Bible, he can’t find where it says God hates him. Will things change when Zach's boyfriend Billy suggests that they all go to his church instead? Click Here or on the icon to read the story.
*The Reverend Dr. Laurence Keene, or as he likes to be called, Larry, was pastor to me and the youth group I was working with for about 4 years up to 1977 (when I moved to Mexico) at the historic Little Brown Church of the Valley (also here for photos) in Studio City, California which is part of Los Angeles in the San Fernando Valley. This is the small church founded by John Wells in 1940 that is famous for the 25,000 weddings it has performed, including that of Ronald and Nancy Reagan. It is associated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). [Note from Gary Lynn: What is kind of funny is that at the time I went there I mistakenly thought that it was a church connected with the Independent Christian Churches (Churches of Christ). Unlike the Independent Christian Churches which believe that homosexuality is a sin, the Disciples are officially divided on the issue and seemingly are OK with working together in this disagreement; some of their churches welcome homosexuals into their congregations and treat them the same as their heterosexual members and some treat homosexuality as a sin. Both the Independent and the Disciples congregations claim the Stone-Campbell merger in 1832 as their roots.]
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